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		<title>&#8220;tenuous&#8221; an undestatement&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;But Jesus and Christianity have a tenuous relationship at best.&#8221; - David Javerbaum]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;But Jesus and Christianity have a tenuous relationship at best.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><em>- David Javerbaum</em></p>
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		<title>Twain &#8211; on &#8220;selflessness&#8221;&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 16:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Old Man&#8221; talking to &#8220;Young Man&#8221; regarding the so-called selfless generosity of giving 25 cents to a needy woman from &#8220;What Is Man and Other Essays&#8221;: Very well. Now let us add up the details and see how much he got for his twenty-five cents. Let us try to find out the REAL why of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Old Man&#8221; talking to &#8220;Young Man&#8221; regarding the so-called selfless generosity of giving 25 cents to a needy woman from &#8220;What Is Man and Other Essays&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>Very well.  Now let us add up the details and see how much he got for  his twenty-five cents.  Let us try to find out the REAL why of his  making the investment.  In the first place HE couldn`t bear the pain  which the old suffering face gave him.  So he was thinking of HIS  pain&#8211;this good man.  He must buy a salve for it.  If he did not succor  the old woman HIS conscience would torture him all the way home.   Thinking of HIS pain again.  He must buy relief for that.  If he didn`t  relieve the old woman HE would not get any sleep.  He must buy some  sleep&#8211;still thinking of HIMSELF, you see.  Thus, to sum up, he bought  himself free of a sharp pain in his heart, he bought himself free of the  tortures of a waiting conscience, he bought a whole night`s sleep&#8211;all  for twenty-five cents!  It should make Wall Street ashamed of itself. On  his way home his heart was joyful, and it sang&#8211;profit on top of  profit!  The impulse which moved the man to succor the old woman  was&#8211;FIRST&#8211;to CONTENT HIS OWN SPIRIT; secondly to relieve HER  sufferings.  Is it your opinion that men`s acts proceed from one central  and unchanging and inalterable impulse, or from a variety of impulses?</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes.  This is the law, keep it in your mind.  FROM HIS CRADLE TO HIS  GRAVE A MAN NEVER DOES A SINGLE THING WHICH HAS ANY FIRST AND FOREMOST  OBJECT BUT ONE&#8211;TO SECURE PEACE OF MIND, SPIRITUAL COMFORT, FOR HIMSELF.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>- Mark Twain in the guise of &#8220;Old Man&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Sadly I think it&#8217;s true. Even if the story of Jesus is real, Jesus gave his life for a &#8220;cause&#8221; &#8211; that is to receive a &#8220;prize&#8221; (the comfort of knowing he had saved souls).</p>
<p>There really is no such thing as &#8220;selfless generosity&#8221;. But once you understand that and embrace  it, it doesn&#8217;t really tarnish acts of kindness. There is beauty in finding acts that are both self-fulfilling and aid others. The key is to try to find the balance the aids the later more than the former.</p>
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		<title>The Eternal has his designs from all eternity&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://eloieloi.org/2010/07/13/72/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[L’Éternel a ses desseins de toute éternité. Si la prière est d’accord avec ses volontés immuables, il est très inutile de lui demander ce qu’il a résolu de faire. Si on le prie de faire le contraire de ce qu’il a résolu, c’est le prier d’être faible, léger, inconstant; c’est croire qu’il soit tel, c’est [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>L’Éternel a ses desseins de toute éternité. Si la prière est d’accord avec ses volontés immuables, il est très inutile de lui demander ce qu’il a résolu de faire. Si on le prie de faire le contraire de ce qu’il a résolu, c’est le prier d’être faible, léger, inconstant; c’est croire qu’il soit tel, c’est se moquer de lui. Ou vous lui demandez une chose juste; en ce cas il la doit, et elle se fera sans qu’on l’en prie; c’est même se défier de lui que lui faire instance ou la chose est injuste, et alors on l’outrage. Vous êtes digne ou indigne de la grâce que vous implorez: si digne, il le sait mieux que vous; si indigne, on commet un crime de plus en demandant ce qu’on ne mérite pas.</p>
<p>En un mot, nous ne faisons des prières à Dieu que parce que nous l’avons fait à notre image. Nous le traitons comme un bacha, comme un sultan qu’on peut irriter ou apaiser.</p></blockquote>
<p>or in English from <a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Voltaire" target="_blank">WikiQuote</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Eternal has his designs from all eternity. If prayer is in accord with his immutable wishes, it is quite useless to ask of him what he has resolved to do. If one prays to him to do the contrary of what he has resolved, it is praying that he be weak, frivolous, inconstant; it is believing that he is thus, it is to mock him. Either you ask him a just thing, in which case he must do it, the thing being done without your praying to him for it, and so to entreat him is then to distrust him; or the thing is unjust, and then you insult him. You are worthy or unworthy of the grace you implore: if worthy, he knows it better than you; if unworthy, you commit another crime by requesting what is undeserved.</p>
<p>In a word, we only pray to God because we have made him in our image. We treat him like a pasha, like a sultan whom one may provoke or appease.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>- Voltaire</em></p>
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		<title>And this is the &#8220;foundation&#8221; for modern Christianity?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Gospels could not possibly be either more or less in number than they are. Since there are four zones of the world in which we live, and four principal winds, while the Church is spread over all the earth, and the pillar and foundation of the Church is the gospel, and the Spirit of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Gospels could not possibly be either more or less in number than they are. Since there are four zones of the world in which we live, and four principal winds, while the Church is spread over all the earth, and the pillar and foundation of the Church is the gospel, and the Spirit of life, it fittingly has four pillars, everywhere breathing out incorruption and revivifying men. From this it is clear that the Word, the artificer of all things, being manifested to men gave us the gospel, fourfold in form but held together by one Spirit. As David said, when asking for his coming, &#8216;O sitter upon the cherubim, show yourself &#8216;. For the cherubim have four faces, and their faces are images of the activity of the Son of God. For the first living creature, it says, was like a lion, signifying his active and princely and royal character; the second was like an ox, showing his sacrificial and priestly order; the third had the face of a man, indicating very clearly his coming in human guise; and the fourth was like a flying eagle, making plain the giving of the Spirit who broods over the Church. Now the Gospels, in which Christ is enthroned, are like these.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>- Irenaeus (2nd Century AD)</em></p>
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